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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Nguyen View Post
    Nationwide, roughly three of every 10 voters Tuesday were minorities. African Americans chose Obama by 93 percent, Latinos by 71 percent and Asian Americans, the nation’s fastest-growing minority, by 73 percent.:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...53f_story.html

    72% Of Amerasians Voted For Barack:
    http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/380599...k#.UJyfuYa1vDc

    Dù sao, bầu cử cũng đă qua rồi. Nước Mỹ đă chọn Obama thêm 4 năm nữa.
    Hăy chúc ông ta được nhiều may mắn.
    “...We are a self-governing country, and the voice and the will of ‘We the People’ have now been heard. America wanted Barack Obama four more years. Now you’ve got him...”(Sean Hannity).
    Anh Dean,

    Tôi không biết mấy cái link anh đưa ra để chứng minh cho điều ǵ. Nhưng tuyệt nhiên không thấy chỗ nào nói có 70 % "dân Mỹ" bỏ cho ông Obama như Bac Teo nói.

    Đây là kết quả tạm thời:

    Obama (61,170,405 votes) = 50%
    Romney (58,163,977 votes) = 48%

    http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/res...ews#exit-polls

    Đương nhiên ông Obama sẽ là tổng thống thêm 4 năm nữa. Nhưng không có nghĩa là chúng ta không có quyền thảo luận về ông và chính sách của ông, đúng không anh Dean?
    Last edited by Thanh Nghia; 09-11-2012 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForexNews View Post
    Con số 70% bầu cho Obama bác lấy ở đâu ra thế?
    70% dân Latino/Hispanic bầu cho ông Obama. Lấy từ NPR. Có biết NPR là chi không? Là National Public Radio. Có biết National Public Radio là ǵ không?

    1 điều muốn nói thêm ra ở đây là, dân Mass bỏ cho Obama những 60%, và dân Mass có phải là toàn dân đen không chôm chỉa th́ ăn eo-phe không? Dân Mass đa số dân Mễ, dân đen?

    Nói chung là những cái tố khổ, bôi bác ông Obama toàn là thứ ngu t́m ngu, ma t́m ma, thứ nhất là ông ta đă đắc cử với đa số phiếu, muốn tố khổ ông ấy th́ t́m moi ra xem có ǵ gian lận trong bầu cử bị tố ra không? chớ đừng tố khổ kiểu bói ra ma quét nhà ra rác, nào là ông ấy đen thui, nào là mẹ ông ấy da trắng thứ không ra ǵ nên đi lấy 1 ông da đen, rồi nào là ông đă từng lớn lên bên xứ Hồi Giáo, nào là cái tên đệm của ông ấy là Hussein, ông đánh thuế đám nhà giàu tức là ông ấy giở tṛ VC/CS/XHCN, ông ấy cho ra đời cái National HealthCare, th́ bôi bác là Obamacare, nào là cha ông ấy lắm vợ nhiều con, nào là anh em cùng cha khác mẹ với ông ấy không ra ǵ, càng tố khổ ông ấy cái kiểu báo lá cải, kiểu Donald Trump đ̣i mang cái tin Obama Michelle đă từng đút đơn xin ly dị ông Obama ra, v.v. và v.v. th́ càng ḷi ra là dân ngu trí thấp không khác ǵ cái đỉnh cao nư nuận của lũ VC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanh Nghia View Post
    Anh Dean,

    Tôi không biết mấy cái link anh đưa ra để chứng minh cho điều ǵ. Nhưng tuyệt nhiên không thấy chỗ nào nói có 70 % "dân Mỹ" bỏ cho ông Obama như Bac Teo nói.

    Đây là kết quả tạm thời:

    Obama (61,170,405 votes) = 50%
    Romney (58,163,977 votes) = 48%

    http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/res...ews#exit-polls

    Đương nhiên ông Obama sẽ là tổng thống thêm 4 năm nữa. Nhưng không có nghĩa là chúng ta không có quyền thảo luận về ông và chính sách của ông, đúng không anh Dean?
    Anh Thanh Nghĩa,

    Con số tôi đưa ra chưa rơ 100% nước Mỹ cử tri. Nhưng đó cũng là đa số cử tri Mỹ rồi. Phần c̣n lại là da trắng bầu Obama mà theo poll mới nhứt từ Washington Post là 37%. Con số 37% tương đương thời cử tri da trắng bầu cho Bill Clinton năm 1992.

    Cũng như theo tin tức th́ Obama mất phiếu của cử tri có income trên $100 ngàn.
    Theo tôi, con số 70% cử tri Mỹ chọn Obama khá gần gũi với các nguồn tin tức.

    Just one in every ten Republican voters were non-white. That is the story of the 2012 election.

    Dĩ nhiên, tiếp tục thảo luận về đề tài này cũng như dự đoán những bước kế tiếp của TT Obama rất là lư thú.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...te-no-problem/

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    Tranh đấu cho tự do dân chủ cho VN, nhưng thái độ của dân bầu cho Cộng Hoà trên diễn đàn này cho thấy ...

    It's a 50-50 nation, give or take
    By CALVIN WOODWARD | Associated Press – Wed, Nov 7, 2012...

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The election laid bare a dual — and dueling — nation, politically speaking, jaggedly split down the middle on the presidency and torn over much else. It seems you can please only half of the people nearly all of the time.

    Americans retained the fractious balance of power in re-electing President Barack Obama, a Republican House and a Democratic Senate, altogether serving as guarantors of the gridlock that voters say they despise. Slender percentages separated winner and loser from battleground to battleground, and people in exit polls said yea and nay in roughly equal measure to some of the big issues of the day.

    Democracy doesn't care if you win big, only that you win. Tuesday was a day of decision as firmly as if Obama had run away with the race. Democrats are ebullient and, after a campaign notable for its raw smackdowns, words of conciliation are coming from leaders on both sides, starting with the plea from defeated Republican rival Mitt Romney that his crestfallen supporters pray for the president.

    But after the most ideologically polarized election in years, Obama's assertion Wednesday morning that America is "more than a collection of red states and blue states" was more of an aspiration than a snapshot of where the country stands.

    "It's going to take a while for this thing to heal," said Ron Bella, 59, a Cincinnati lawyer who lives in Alexandria, Ky. He is relieved Obama won, but some of his co-workers are in a "sour mood" about it.

    "They feel like the vast majority of the country wanted Romney, and the East and the West coasts wanted Obama," he said. "I'm not sure exactly why that is, but there just seems to be such hatred for Obama out there."

    Compromise was a popular notion in the hours after Obama's victory and an unavoidable one, given the reality of divided government. But the familiar contours of partisan Washington were also in evidence, especially the notion that compromise means you do things my way.

    As Democratic Rep. Steve Israel of New York put it, "If you refuse to compromise, we are going to beat you." Israel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said the election showed "if you are an extremist tea party Republican, you are going to lose."

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said pointedly that Republicans will meet Obama halfway "to the extent he wants to move to the political center" and propose solutions "that actually have a chance of passing."

    Boehner: 'Mr. President, this is your moment'

    In New York's bustling Times Square, hope, skepticism and the usual polarities were all to be found when people talked about the president. "He may not have done a great job in my mind but I kinda trust him," said Jerry Shul. "I have faith he will get with the Republicans and get something done."

    A less-flattering George Dallemand called this "a moment of truth" for the country. "I guess we have to wish for the best now, but I still think he is socialism."

    In Miami, Karen Fitzgerald, 55, wore a black dress and said she was in mourning over Romney's defeat.

    "It's an upsetting day," she said. But she took some comfort from her Democratic friends on Facebook, who have stopped chiding the other side in their posts. "Now they're all saying we need to work together and be united," she said. "Maybe we can."

    In Springfield, Ohio, an "elated" Frank Hocker, 67, hoped Republicans would get the message to get out of Obama's way. "There was a backlash," he said. "For this obstructionist House and those tea party people, I hope they learned their lesson. I hope they learned their lesson: Don't stop the progress of this country."

    In Chicago, Obama supporter Scherita Parrish, 56, predicted the president will reach out to Republicans but may not get much back.

    "But the people have spoken," she said. "They need to lick their wounds, get on with it and start working with the president."

    Unity is a challenge not just for Obama but for the Republicans, who won less than 30 percent of the growing Hispanic vote and not even one in 10 black voters. Obama built a strong Electoral College majority, if only a narrow advantage in the popular vote, despite losing every age group of non-Hispanic white voters.
    ..
    Surveys of voters found Obama's health care law to be as divisive as ever, with just under 50 percent wanting it repealed in whole or part, and 44 percent liking it as is or wanting more of it.

    But democracy doesn't care about exit polls, either, and the election almost certainly means Republicans can forget about trying to roll it back now.

    In reaffirming divided government, though, Americans all but ensured colossal fights are ahead over the shape of government and Obama's agenda. He is out to break a wall of Republican opposition to tax increases on the wealthy — a move that about half the voters in exit polls thought was a good idea. And extraordinarily difficult negotiations are imminent as the president and Congress try to make a deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff" — steep spending cuts and a variety of tax increases in January.

    In the end, voters split about equally on whether Obama or Romney would be better at handling the economy.

    Then again, they were divided down the middle on whether Obama or his predecessor, George W. Bush, deserves most of the blame for the economy's problems.

    So it goes in the 50-50 nation, give or take.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Christine Armario in Miami, Michael Tarm in Chicago, David Martin in New York, Amanda Myers in Cincinnati and Ann Sanner in Columbus, Ohio, contributed to this report.

    http://news.yahoo.com/50-50-nation-1...-election.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Nguyen View Post
    Anh Thanh Nghĩa,

    Con số tôi đưa ra chưa rơ 100% nước Mỹ cử tri. Nhưng đó cũng là đa số cử tri Mỹ rồi. Phần c̣n lại là da trắng bầu Obama mà theo poll mới nhứt từ Washington Post là 37%. Con số 37% tương đương thời cử tri da trắng bầu cho Bill Clinton năm 1992.

    Cũng như theo tin tức th́ Obama mất phiếu của cử tri có income trên $100 ngàn.
    Theo tôi, con số 70% cử tri Mỹ chọn Obama khá gần gũi với các nguồn tin tức.

    Just one in every ten Republican voters were non-white. That is the story of the 2012 election.

    Dĩ nhiên, tiếp tục thảo luận về đề tài này cũng như dự đoán những bước kế tiếp của TT Obama rất là lư thú.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...te-no-problem/
    Tại sao anh không nh́n vào con số cập nhật mới nhất trong post #11 của tôi, mà phải đưa ra nhiều tỷ lệ của các sắc dân da trắng, vàng, đỏ, đen làm ǵ cho phức tạp.

    Nếu không tin th́ hăy xem kết quả 4 năm về trước giữa Obama và McCain đây:

    Obama (69,498,217) = 52.93%
    McCain (59,948,240) = 45.66%

    Năm nay 2012, ông Romney c̣n khá hơn ông McCain nhiều. Cho nên chuyện Obama thắng Romney với tỷ số 70/30 (Popular votes) là chuyện không thể xảy ra. Mặc dù chưa có kết quả cuối cùng, nhưng tôi dám khẳng định như vậy.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/election-results-2012-won-obama-165524537.html

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    Election results 2012: Who won it for Obama?

    Exit polls find that a key to Obama's victory was winning 93 percent of African-Americans, 71 percent of Hispanics, and 73 percent of Asians. Mitt Romney took most of the white vote, which is 72 percent of the electorate. But it wasn't enough.
    By Peter Grier | Christian Science Monitor – Wed, Nov 7, 2012...

    More From Christian Science Monitor.
    .
    .Barack O-bonbon: French sweet on president's reelection
    CBO: Going over the fiscal cliff is bad, but so is ignoring the national debt
    Look outward, Obama
    Why Democrats have the tea party to thank for their win (+video)
    ...

    President Obama was reelected Tuesday night in large part because of strong support from women and minorities. The lesson of his victory for both parties, but particularly Republicans, may be this: The primacy of white male voters has passed. In the modern era, it takes a diverse coalition to win the White House.

    Look at the basic breakdown of Mr. Obama’s victory, according to exit polls (which may yet be revised). He won 93 percent of African-Americans, 71 percent of Hispanics, and 73 percent of Asians. He took 55 percent of the overall female vote, down only one percentage point from his comparable 2008 showing.

    Mitt Romney, meanwhile, won about 59 percent of the white vote. That’s the best a GOP nominee has done among whites since 1988, and not too long ago such a performance might have guaranteed a winning margin of 270 electoral votes. After all, whites still make up 72 percent of US voters.

    But that percentage has inexorably grown smaller election by election. In 2008 whites were 74 percent of the electorate. Given Obama’s popularity among minorities, Mr. Romney would have needed the support of even more whites to win – and Obama did well (or well enough) among white women, particularly single and young white women.

    Romney won white men by 25 points. It wasn’t enough.

    As to other lessons from the preliminary exit poll data, it’s clear that Hispanics are quickly becoming a political force that national politicians must acknowledge. They increased their share of the electorate by about three percentage points; at that pace, they’ll tie or pass African-Americans as the largest minority voting bloc in 2016.

    The Hispanic vote helped produce the dead heat in Florida, for instance. That’s a state Romney needed to win to have plausible paths to 270 electoral votes, and he could reasonably have expected to do well among the state’s conservative Cuban-heritage population. But Obama performed three percentage points better among Florida’s Hispanics than he did in 2008, winning 60 percent of their votes. If he emerges as the winner there, that will be a big reason.

    Winning the independent vote also no longer appears to be as important as it once seemed. Romney led Obama among self-described independents, 50 to 45 percent. That’s a turnaround from four years ago, when Obama won them, 52 to 44 percent.

    But independents, like whites, were a slightly smaller share of the electorate in 2012. And a declaration of independence is not necessarily indicative of a voter’s ideology. Obama won self-declared moderates, 56 to 41 percent. Obama also took 86 percent of the liberal vote, while Romney won 82 percent of conservatives.

    Does that mean 4 percent of voters who think they’re leftish voted for Romney, and 18 percent who believe they’re to the right side of the spectrum voted for Obama? It does, according to exit polls. Sometimes it’s the little numbers that are the most surprising.


    Tearful Obama Credits Staff for History-Books Campaign


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    Credential... cho kẻ "Gặm Cỏ Non " ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chín-đờn-c̣ View Post
    Dinesh D’Souza Resigns Presidency of The King’s College
    Oct 18, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

    Amid scandal over his engagement to a much younger woman and dissatisfaction with his tenure as president, the conservative author and filmmaker is leaving his position at The King’s College.


    After a marathon meeting to decide his fate, the board of trustees of The King’s College, a small evangelical school based in Manhattan, announced Thursday that conservative author Dinesh D’Souza had resigned as president. Former president and current chairman Andy Mills, who made the announcement to faculty and staff, will return as interim president for a third time.

    "God has a mighty future for Dinesh, but there are some things he has to go through first," Mills said after breaking the news to King's students Thursday afternoon. "I have to admit, I got a bit over-enamored with him." Mills assured students that most of the college's funding and scholarships come from board members, not from D'Souza's connections.


    Dinesh D'Souza visits “The Opie & Anthony Show” in New York City, Sept. 27. (Cindy Ord / Getty Images)

    D’Souza came under fire Tuesday when World magazine revealed that he was engaged to a 29-year-old woman while still married to his wife of 20 years. D’Souza and Denise Odie Joseph allegedly shared a hotel room at a Christian conference in September, and D’Souza introduced her as his fiancee.

    It was not immediately clear whether the board’s decision was driven by the allegations of the affair, or by dissatisfaction with D’Souza’s leadership that had been building at the college for months. At the meeting Thursday, Mills did not give details of the board's conversation about D’Souza or give reasons for his departure. Representatives for the college did not respond to requests for comment.

    According to several sources at the college, members of the King’s faculty and board alike had grown unhappy with D’Souza’s presidency over what they saw as a failure to earn his salary. D’Souza has spent much of the past few months promoting his documentary, 2016: Obama’s America, and his high profile in the media was seen as rarely benefitting the college. It may even have been seen as a detriment: According to a former staffer familiar with the college’s public relations, King’s employees have been explicitly tasked with disentangling D’Souza’s extracurricular activities from the college’s reputation. D’Souza became a non-presence on the college’s official Facebook page throughout 2012, which staffers say was no coincidence.

    ...............

    Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-college.html
    Last edited by JNguyencali; 09-11-2012 at 04:06 PM.

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    Cái tóp bíc này bỏ lên phải chăng không ăn được th́ quậy cho hôi?

    Cái tóp bíc này bỏ lên phải chăng không ăn được th́ quậy cho hôi?

    Thứ nhất là cho dù chuyện phim có thiệt đi nữa, th́ bầu cử đâu đó đă xong, giờ đây chỉ c̣n là hoà hợp với người đắc cử, phải tuân thủ theo thủ tục người của đa số, có biết là như vậy không? nếu không tự suy nghĩ ra điều này, th́ đó là không khác ǵ tự làm khó cho chính ḿnh, tự hạ nhục tư cách ḿnh, tự phá rối đất nước Mỹ, th́ c̣n trông mong ǵ công cuộc đấu tranh dân chủ cho VN của những người này, v́ khi cái t́nh thần tôn trọng tự do dân chủ của những người này là con số không to tổ bố.
    Last edited by Hoàng Nguyên; 10-11-2012 at 09:56 AM.

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    Let's Twist ..Will You ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JNguyencali View Post
    Dinesh D’Souza Resigns Presidency of The King’s College
    Oct 18, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

    Amid scandal over his engagement to a much younger woman and dissatisfaction with his tenure as president, the conservative author and filmmaker is leaving his position at The King’s College.


    After a marathon meeting to decide his fate, the board of trustees of The King’s College, a small evangelical school based in Manhattan, announced Thursday that conservative author Dinesh D’Souza had resigned as president. Former president and current chairman Andy Mills, who made the announcement to faculty and staff, will return as interim president for a third time.

    "God has a mighty future for Dinesh, but there are some things he has to go through first," Mills said after breaking the news to King's students Thursday afternoon. "I have to admit, I got a bit over-enamored with him." Mills assured students that most of the college's funding and scholarships come from board members, not from D'Souza's connections.


    Dinesh D'Souza visits “The Opie & Anthony Show” in New York City, Sept. 27. (Cindy Ord / Getty Images)

    D’Souza came under fire Tuesday when World magazine revealed that he was engaged to a 29-year-old woman while still married to his wife of 20 years. D’Souza and Denise Odie Joseph allegedly shared a hotel room at a Christian conference in September, and D’Souza introduced her as his fiancee.

    It was not immediately clear whether the board’s decision was driven by the allegations of the affair, or by dissatisfaction with D’Souza’s leadership that had been building at the college for months. At the meeting Thursday, Mills did not give details of the board's conversation about D’Souza or give reasons for his departure. Representatives for the college did not respond to requests for comment.

    According to several sources at the college, members of the King’s faculty and board alike had grown unhappy with D’Souza’s presidency over what they saw as a failure to earn his salary. D’Souza has spent much of the past few months promoting his documentary, 2016: Obama’s America, and his high profile in the media was seen as rarely benefitting the college. It may even have been seen as a detriment: According to a former staffer familiar with the college’s public relations, King’s employees have been explicitly tasked with disentangling D’Souza’s extracurricular activities from the college’s reputation. D’Souza became a non-presence on the college’s official Facebook page throughout 2012, which staffers say was no coincidence.

    ...............

    Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-college.html


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    70% dân Latino/Hispanic bầu cho ông Obama. Lấy từ NPR. Có biết NPR là chi không? Là National Public Radio. Có biết National Public Radio là ǵ không?

    1 điều muốn nói thêm ra ở đây là, dân Mass bỏ cho Obama những 60%.

    Nói chung là những cái tố khổ, bôi bác ông Obama toàn là thứ ngu t́m ngu, ma t́m ma, thứ nhất là ông ta đă đắc cử với đa số phiếu, không có ǵ gian lận trong bầu cử bị tố ra, mà tố khổ ông ta toàn là ba cái bói ra ma quét nhà ra rác, nào là ông ấy đen thui, nào là mẹ ông ấy da trắng thứ không ra ǵ nên đi lấy 1 ông da đen, rồi nào là ông đă từng lớn lên bên xứ Hồi Giáo, nào là cái tên đệm của ông ấy là Hussein, ông đánh thuế đám nhà giàu th́ kêu rên là ông ấy giở tṛ VC/CS/XHCN, ông ấy cho ra đời cái National HealthCare, th́ bôi bác là Obamacare, nào là cha ông ấy lắm vợ nhiều con, nào là anh em cùng cha khác mẹ với ông ấy không ra ǵ, càng tố khổ ông ấy th́ càng ḷi ra là dân ngu trí thấp không khác ǵ cái đỉnh cao nư nuận của lũ VC.


    Bạn HN. Tôi chỉ hỏi Bác Teo một câu đơn giản: con số 70% ở đâu ra, thế thôi. V́ tôi thấy con số chênh lệch khác nhau khá nhiều nơi mỗi trang web. Tôi muốn con số chính xác, không phải là phỏng đoán.

    Tôi không hề hỏi bạn, hoặc nhờ bạn giải thích: "dân Latino/Hispanic bầu cho ông Obama. Lấy từ NPR. Có biết NPR là chi không? Là National Public Radio. Có biết National Public Radio là ǵ không?", rồi bạn giải thích một thôi một hồi. Những câu hỏi này cuả bạn tôi thấy quá dư thưà, mất thời gian, bossy, tôi không có hỏi bạn chuyện này...Chỉ cần focus vào những điểm chính hay những câu hỏi, không nên đi ra ngoài đề.
    Last edited by ForexNews; 09-11-2012 at 06:40 PM.

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